"President Obama said this week that his health care plan won't cover illegal immigrants, but argued that's all the more reason to legalize them and ensure they eventually do get coverage."
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/sep/18/obama-ties-immigration-t...

"we seem to still rely on the creativity and competence of politicians to solve problems, which always somehow seem to be tied in with which lobby is the strongest in Washington. "
http://www.campaignforliberty.com/article.php?view=218

I too will be voting out all incumbents out of office this round of elections. Every american citizen is fed up with their pandering to these criminals. One more american life is lost we the people should go on a rampage and do what our government won't.

I say we need to close boarders and not let anymore illegls in. I agree that they are taking jobs away from Legal Amercans that would be more then happy to work even in the fields or doing work that these people are getting paid for. I am sure that there are homeless people that would love to earn money for food and roof over their heads. As for health issurance many of these people have more money then me, I am unemployed student and have numerous health problems, yet a lot of my meds are not covered while the illegls are getting freebees and drive new cars or trucks. I say if they can afford these new autos then they can buy health care!
Susan

Governor Arnold of California cannot blame the illegals for even a part of the financial problems of the state, or there is a possibility he would be recalled or become brain dead.

12 million illegals? When was the last count? This figure is ridiculously low, and our government knows it. I would say the actual number of illegals is closer to 25 million, and growing. I went camping in a remote state park in CA over Memorial Day weekend and was treated to loud Mexican music and loud conversations in Spanish. CA is truly overrun by hispanics, and unless our lamest-of-the-lame "representatives" here are forced to stop their catering to illegals, there will be an increase in the exodus of Americans from this state. Feinstein, Boxer, and Harman are hell-bent on destroying our state. Business taxes are sky-high to cover the cost of the massive influx of impoverished illegals, and the state is in a downward spiral. I'm afraid that only when illegals reach the proportion they constitute in L.A., will the majority of Americans understand the gravity of their tolerance, and by then it will be too late. We cannot rescue the whole third-world; why do liberal Americans think Mexicans have any right to be here to "better their lives" at the degradation of ours? Americans-- WAKE UP!!!

Two huge fields of illegal planting in our National forests have been discovered in Utah.... worth millions of dollars in drug money to illegals. Go to the news reports and read all about it!

First and always thank you for getting this information to American citizens. With local media a person does not hear much of what is really happening in Washington DC and heaven forbid they tell of this bill from Senator Baucus.

I am confused with wondering if it would not be cheaper to redo the immigration to citizenship steps? I am not opposed to people from other countries becoming citizens that are ready to stand up for America and our Constitution and that speak ENGLISH which the citizenship test should only be given in ENGLISH and that are willing to die to fight for our country and it's way of life. If it were so bad then why do so many flock here to save their lives and to become Americans?

Anyway, I find it appalling to even consider that illegal aliens from any country would be part of this national health care plan. I find it horrible that the government even suggest this since most of the illegals are getting FREE medical now and it is bringing down all health care across the board and granting amnesty to millions of illegals will only continue the problems this country is having. This government and many before it just do not get it or they do and that is why they want to change it so they can control the people not the other way around.

Has any consideration gone out to how Senator Baucus bill would help us? Are the Republicans backing this bill?
It would be great if this bill, which would eliminate illegal aliens on our countries purposed "national health care" go into place. Yes it may also effect the amnesty that this liberal government wants in place so bad but that is not for the people but for their own self indulged power. This government and many like it do not care about the "people" but only themselves and their power.

Do people not understand that we tax payers cannot afford this? Where is the money going to come from for this National Health Care? Our government cannot even keep their hands off medicare or social security which is for Americans but they want to be in charge of our health care. REDICULOUS!!!

It does not work and there are millions of examples to look at from our neighboring countries that say NO to this socialist form of health care in America.

If a person wants to become a citizen of this country then let's go through the steps, do the background checks, see if they would be a benefit to this country, and this is just about the person becoming a citizen not the whole family and their families and so on.

We are a good people in this country and we do not have to be liberal or socialist to give what is needed to other countries and people that want to live here legally but we cannot keep this up. There is no money left in reality, yes reality!

I say we back Senator Baucus and take the punches from the far leftist groups that are destroying California and working swiftly to do the same to other states in this Union like IL where I live. If Senator Durbin had his way we would all be speaking another language of his choosing so he could hold onto his seat and power for another term.

This is AMERICA folks and we need to stay AMERICA by AMERICANS and we can help in Mexico by going there, cleaning up the drug cartels and setting up what their people need that keeps bringing them to our states, then again they are here for more than freedoms and free medical etc...many of them want back what we won, Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, parts of California and so on.

In reality, did we not take this from the Indians that lived there as well? Look what we did to them in the name of growth and prosperity.

This country is not perfect and there is no perfect country because they are run by people/religion but...we can work towards making many countries better if they want our help.

The way I see it you get rid of the drug dealers in Mexico and Mexico may be an okay place for real Mexicans to live. It would sure give them a choice anyway and the illegals that would still invade our boarders would then be people that want to be Americans or they would be trouble makers.
Either way there would be more funding to help in both of those areas not only from America but other countries as well including the Mexican government. Heck half if not more of our jobs are there anyway.

If people want medical help that are not citizens then let them do what people from Canada and other countries and many Americans do, save their money and get the help they need from any country that is willing to take their money.

Yes it is all about the money and paying the bills and if we have to do it for ourselves then so should others.

We already have "free medical" for those Americans that cannot afford it and many Americans that have the money have donated to these organizations that help other for years. The government couldn't do it by themselves for years so why now?

We do not need to continue to ruin America because of power in the voting for these elected officials that have forgotten what their jobs are. We are Americans, they are Americans and it is time more step up to the plate and do their jobs and if they cannot no longer do it then get out of the race and let others with better ideas and more American ideals have the seat, if they mess up they go too.

Americans have started standing up for our rights and while we still can, more need to know they are not alone. We as Americans have to do the right thing for our country and it goes way beyond individuals it goes to the protections of our country and our American way of life. It goes to protecting our God given and Constitutional rights which many have fought for and died for.

As the old saying goes, "it is not over till the fat lady sings" well the Statue of Liberty is starting to hum now and we have to join in the chorus and do our job to protect ourselves, our children and what America stands for and the land that we love.

Amazing that the democrats don't see or don't want to see
these problems,illegal aliens cause all they see is potential voters down the road and the illegal alien lobbies see this and use it to get more House and Senate supporters.But once the dust settles the illegals will as they always do and set at home on election day,as all the illegals care about is getting these stupid U.S.Rep's to give them amnesty.

Thank you for standing up for the truth. Too many of your parties senators wouldnt know the truth if it bit them.
Please keep AMERICA strong

John

What is happening to our country?! Get involved!

My son almost died of a bleeding ucler when he was 14 because the emergency room was overflowing with immigrants. By the time they helped him he had no pulse. This happened in Minnesota of all places. Yes it would make sense to have insurance for everyody in the country. However there is one overaching fact that comes before all else...illegals shouldn't be here in the first place and legals needs to come in managable numbers. That will solve the problem of medical care being over run by poor/uninsured immigrants. Dah, irrational compassion can factually kill those who generously give their place in line to many who exploit us and our health system.

Once these Illegal Immigrants are given amnesty, being made U.S. Citizens is next, then comes the Healthcare. Who do they think they are fooling? Amnesty needs to be voted OUT no matter what!

Even if the amnesty does not become law, we have another scary situation. Although it has not come to the floor since 2003 when it was introduced by Congressman John Conyers, H.R.676 is a house bill in progress that if passed will create the biggest drain on our economy in history.

Under "Who is Eligible " The bill reads: EVERY PERSON LIVING OR VISITING IN THE UNITED STATES AND THE US TERRITORIES WOULD RECEIVE A UNITED STATES NATIONAL HEALTH INSURANCE CARED AND ID NUMBER ONCE THEY ENROLL AT THE APPORPRIATE LOCATION. SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBERS MAY NOT BE USED WHEN ASSIGNING ID CARDS"

Under what is covered: THIS PROGRAM WILL COVER ALL MEDICALLY NECESSARY SERVICES, INCLUDING PRIMARY CARE, INPATIENT CARE, OUTPATIENT CARE, EMERGENCY CARE, PRESCRIPTION DRUGS, DURABLE MEDICAL EQUIPMENT, LONG TERM CARE, MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES, DENTISTRY, EYE CARE, CHIORPRACTIC, AND SUBSTANCE ABUSE TREATMENT. PATIENTS HAVE THEIR CHOICE OF PHYSICIANS, PROVIDERS, HOSPITALS, CLINICS, AND PREACICES. NO CO-PAYS OR DEDUCTIBLES ARE PERMISSIBLE UNDER THE ACT"

Don't take my word for it. The bill and many summaries are on the web for you to take a look at.

Although from what I have read, H.R.676 has virtually no chance of passing or even coming up for a vote, but with 75 original co signers, there will be pressure to put some of the wording into new bills that will come to the floor over the next year or two.

If his happens, not only illegals, but legal foreign workers, medical vacationers, and the children of all three categories will have access to the free health care that Americans pay for in taxes.

The average cost of health care in the US per person today is $7,800, and of course will rise with inflation.

At some point , we will have 100 million people in the categories above here with their hands for their free care and the care of their anchor children.

Although a well run single payer system like the one above might sound great to hard working Americans, unless we find a way to stop the illegal and foreign use of our free system, it will go bankrupt, along with the rest of us very early on.

A single payer health care system might or might no be affordable for American citizens, and potentially in our best interest, but we have to watch very carefully that our lawmakers are no handing it out like candy to foreigners with their hands out.

By the way, the "free health care" is expected to Cover
4 million residents of Puerto Rico, Samoa, Guam, American Virgin Islands, and the Marianas. None of these American territories pay any federal income tax, so how many of them and how will they pay for their free services. They do though pay some token Medicare and Medicaid taxes.

We need to make sure any nationalized single payer health plan that is not just for American citizens does net get voted into law.

The farm lobbies, food service lobbies, pseudo-religious groups, and open boarder groups will be pushing hard...watch out.

Simple enough to solve. It's not the illegals; it's the "elected officials" that will do anything to stay in office so long as it's just your money. Keep up with what they are doing, not what they are saying. Cheaters don't lie and liars don't cheat, so that eliminates 90% of congress. There are groups that will champion almost any cause. The NRA, Judicial Watch, Numbers USA and HSUS are my causes and I try to support them and their actions as best I can. Vote to get the members of congress that you do not agree with out of office. Impeach them. Work against them. Writing to the local newspapers is one of my favorite things. I can always generate a little back talk.

It is amazing what the political morons will do for money and voters. Time for a full government recall or ?

We are already handing everything to "refugees", grants being given, homes being build by Habitat for Humanity, cars being bought, medical care being provided. "Refugees" who have balances in the thousands of dollars on their food stamp/TANF cards .... yet .... natural born citizens of our country are being denied denied denied. Even our active duty military have to pay co-pays on their dependents medical/dental care. RETIRED MILITARY PEOPLE HAVE TO PAY FOR THEIR INSURANCE. EXCUSE ME, but what in the hell is our government thinking? I know ... the congress, senate, even our president don't really give a dam about the citizens of this country. We have lost millions and millions of jobs to overseas production, our government put the working people of this country into bankruptsy, while the executives build multimillion dollar homes, we are being taxed to death, forced to insure everything, and if we don't insure, well we get tickets, get our licenses/registrations suspended, and soon we will be getting this if we don't have health insurance. Who gains from insurance .... the executives of the insurance companies!!!!! If I chose not to have insurance on my car or myself, or my home .... then I suffer the consequences when something happens ... even if I have insurance .... I suffer the consequences of somebody that does not even know me, will deny whatever claim made on the insurance. OH YEAH, hire a lawyer .... get what you deserve .... and make that lawyer even richer.

I am retired military, and may God forgive me for ever believing in my country's government. May God forgive me for dragging my family all over this country, for having to leave them for months at a time, to take and oath and live an oath to die for my country and my beliefs. May God forgive every single senator or congress member for taking oaths to work for the PEOPLE of this country and not doing so.

I am sick of my government. I have a very very military family. Out of 8 children in my family 5 enlisted in the military, out of 14 grandchildren. so far 6 enlisted and 4 are still active duty, 3 of those serving in Afganistan or Iraq at this time. OK, so where is their support ... their thank you for you service?

Maybe, just maybe, if the senators, and congress members were made to spend a year in one of these countries, or made to live as most citizens of the this country do for a year, living from hand to mouth. Why do they have to have homes in DC .... why doesnt the govenment just build a huge congressional/senatorial barracks, where they can stay when in session, why not have a galley where they can eat. For that matter, why not just stay in their states where they are needed video session.

I could go on until hell freezes over ... but I won't. By the way, I emailed my congressmen over a week ago about something I feel very strongly about .... guess what ... NO RESPONSE.

Sharon Puffer

There are millions of Americans without health care. Medicare is going broke and these pro-amensty groups want health care for illegas. Senator Baucass state is a neighbor to us. And I hope that he will continue to keep on tractk and get some of his fellow senators to support him.

California is bankrupt because of benefits provided to illegal aliens. Now the crazies (politicans) in Washington want to do the same thing to the other 49 states. Does your vote count? Do American politicans represent American citizens or illegal aliens? Did you get to vote for NAFTA so that we could export 3 million jobs to Mexico and import 20 million leeches (illegal aliens)? The madness never ends!