* 11:30 p.m. -- Democrats very well may have retained control of the Senate if national Party leaders and the White House had not pressured vulnerable Senators like Pryor of Arkansas, Landrieu of Louisiana, Hagan of North Carolina and Begich of Alaska to pass the Senate Gang of Eight's comprehensive amnesty and immigration-doubling bill.
Republicans helped themselves capture the Senate today by using massive advertising and other campaigning to tie Democratic candidates to Pres. Obama's immigration crusade. Their immigration approach fed into middle-class insecurty about increasing lifetime work permits to foreign workers in a time of declining real wages in a country with a giant labor surplus.
While Republican candidates had varying approaches to immigration issues, the overall national tenor of the Republican approach was to attack the idea of giving work permits to millions of illegal aliens to directly compete with struggling Americans for jobs. For the most part, Democratic candidates -- both incumbents and hopefuls -- tried to change the subject. Virtually none of them campaigned as champions of the Obama and Gang of Eight immigration efforts.
Republican candidates were helped by the overall immigration message that used immigration policy to turn the image of the Party from one carrying water for corporate America and the wealthy to one concerned about fairness to wage-earners and their families. It is a message that will be necessary if Republicans are to attract the working-class votes necessary to win the White House in 2016. And it is one that Democrats will need to learn again if they are to stop Republicans from making long-term in-roads into a traditional part of the Democratic base.
Today's elections significantly increase the strength of the anti-amnesty, pro-worker immigration policies among Members of both the Senate and House. For example, Senator-elect David Purdue of Georgia is rated by NumbersUSA as a "True Reformer." That means he signed a survey pledging support to eliminate Chain Migration of non-nuclear family, eliminate the visa lottery, eliminate birthright citizenship for births to illegal aliens and a number of other immigration-reduction policies. Purdue is a Republican replacing Republican Sen. Saxby Chambliss who was part of the 2007 Senate group that proposed the Kennedy/McCain/Bush amnesty but who withdrew after being booed at the state convention.
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12:30 a.m. -- Chuck Todd just said on MSNBC that tonight's results put an end to comprehensive immigration reform and especially to the President issuing and executive amnesty. He was responding to another's talk that Obama absolutely cannot go forward with executive amnesty as that would be a huge affront to the voters of today and set off a political civil war. Rachel, however, insisted that he should do it because every Republican is going to hate him anyway. Democrats on MSNBC panel are telling Republicans that they have to fix their Hispanic problem or they may control Congress for a long time but only get to the White House when invited for dinner.
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10:40 p.m. -- Gardner's big Republican win over Democratic Sen. Udall is big enough that nobody can claim that any anticipated drop in Hispanic voting was the cause.
Pro-amnesty pundits all day have been spinning the idea that if Democratic Senators lost tonight it would because too many Hispanic voters stayed home as a protest against Obama for NOT giving out his executive amnesty BEFORE the election.
At this moment, we don't know that there was a drop-off in the percentage of Hispanic voting compared to the last mid-term in 2010. But if there was a drop-off, it is almost impossible for it to have been big enough in Colorado to had caused Udall to have lost by such a big margin.
And Colorado was the only state with a large enough Hispanic voter registration for that demographic to be a factor.
Gardner is going to need a lot of help from Colorado citizens to have a better understanding of immigration and the law of supply and demand in the labor market. Thus far, his positions on immigration are very weak. Nonetheless, he did not emphasize immigration policy in his as-of-just-two-months-ago wildly improbable race to victory. Immigration just wasn't an issue in this contest.
Nonetheless, it is useful to note here that Sen. Udall is yet another Democrat who went off the cliff for Obama's massive increase in foreign labor.
And I must add one other sad note. Sen. Udall comes from a distinguished family of conservationists who have a long history of preserving national natural wonders and resources for future generations. We at NumbersUSA have tried since his entry into the Senate to persuade him to stop the federal government's coercive population growth program in which immigration policy has been the main factor in the U.S. population growing by some 25 million while Udall is in office. Not only has Udall supported current immigration policies that will double U.S. population to more than 600 million the end of this century but he has consistently voted to increase that rate of growth. Udall's immigration policies will arguably contribute to more natural habitat destruction this century than all the nature that his family has been a part of saving in the past. A very sad tale, but one that too many environmentalists are part of because of blind adherence to a high-immigration ideology. One wonders how much better Sen. Udall would have done today if he had told Coloradoans that he would fight for an immigration policy that would greatly slow the rapid population growth that currently is rapidly destroying the quality of life in Colorado that most citizens there value the most.
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9:45 p.m. -- Networks finally call New Hampshire's Senate race for the incumbent Jeanne Shaheen who previously had been a very popular governor. The fact that she was in the race for her political life with former MASSACHUSETTS Senator Scott Brown was due to only one issue, as far as I can see it -- immigration.
Brown was getting nowhere until mid-summer when he started hammering Shaheen for her support for Pres. Obama's amnesties and mass foreign-worker importation. Quickly, he cut Shaheen's big lead in the polls in half. And as Brown pushed the connections between immigration and the American worker more, he turned the race into a toss-up.
Shaheen was savvy enough to try to cover over her obvious vulnerability. She voted against Pres. Obama in a procedural vote in September in which Majority Leader Harry Reid made it possible for vulnerable Democrats to vote to block Obama's promised executive amnesty while ensuring that the effort would be defeated by one vote. We can hope that newly re-elected Sen. Shaheen will next year live up to the image she portrayed to voters of putting American workers' interests ahead of the open-borders interests of the national leadership of the Democratic Party.
We can all thank Scott Brown for providing the impetus for Sen. Shaheen to be a much more responsible voter on immigration issues in her second term. But as always, that is likely to depend on how much constant pressure and education citizens such as those who are members of NumbersUSA will provide.
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8:35 p.m. -- Arkansas Sen. Pryor loses to Rep. Cotton. Sen. Mark Pryor's flip-flop on immigration is an excellent example of this year's election phenomenon of the political consequences of turning away from your state's agenda to embrace Pres. Obama's agenda. Pryor used to take a reliably pro-worker position on immigration in line with the wishes of Arkansas voters. Then in 2013 under tremendous pressure from the White House, he switched. Today, he lost his job to Rep. Cotton who has aggressively taken the pro-worker, less-immigration approach that Pryor abandoned.
I was shocked in 2013 when Sen. Pryor voted for Obama's pet bill that would have given lifetime work permits to around 10 million illegal aliens and would have doubled legal immigration over the next 10 years for a grand total of around 30 million lifetime work permits for foreign workers. Before last year, Pryor had been one of the Democrats that we at NumbersUSA had been able to promote as taking a traditional pro-worker, tight-labor-market immigration position. His was one of the votes that killed the Kennedy/McCain/Bush amnesty in 2007. His was one of the votes that killed Obama's DREAM Act amnesty in 2010. Between those actions, we featured him at a NumbersUSA symposium for his concern for protecting American workers.
After all of that, why would he vote for an even bigger amnesty and foreign worker increase in S. 744 in 2013, especially with an election coming up in 2014? I've always speculated that the national Democratic leaders who control the big campaign money gave the previously anti-amnesty Democrats a sense that their funding of the 2014 campaigns would be far more helpful if they switched. What we know for sure is that every one of those Democrats did switch to back Obama on further flooding an already engorged labor market with too many workers chasing too few jobs.
As much as Pryor tried to campaign as somebody who was independent of Obama, his flip-flop on immigration was a glaring suggestion of the opposite conclusion. Pryor lost his Arkansas seat to Republican Congressman Tom Cotton who arrived in Congress and aggressively spoke and acted for limited immigration to protect American workers just as Pryor was abandoning that position.
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8:00 p.m. -- It's official: Dave Brat will bring his pro-worker immigration policy into Congress and replace the corporate lobbyist immigration leanings of former Majority Leader Eric Cantor. If Republicans hope to compete for the 2016 Presidential prize, they will need to figure out how to be seen by voters as the Party of productive wage-earners and not the Party of Wall Street. That was Brat's framing of his race last spring and it was a key factor in setting off all the GOP pro-worker immigration advertising that filled the Senate campaigns this fall.
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7:35 p.m. -- Romney on Fox continuing to talk nonsense about immigration as if it doesn't relate to the oversupply of labor that is driving down wages and driving Americans out of the labor market. Fortunately, he has pulled back from his weekend comments predicting a GOP Congress would pass an amnesty right away. And he did say on executive amnesty that Obama has to follow the law, and if he doesn't there will be "very serious consequence."
But the worst is his talking about getting things right for the millions of people waiting to immigrate the right way.
See my comments at 2:40 p.m. for why that way of talking is in direct contradiction of where the GOP put its ad money to try to get control of the Senate.
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2:40 p.m.. -- If Republicans take Senate seats away from Democrats tonight, it will be under a huge aerial attack of ads by Republicans tying Democrats to amnesty and an uncontrolled surge for foreign workers, according to the latest tabulations on TV advertising by Kantar Media's Campaign Media Analysis Group.
While the Republican ads establish their candidates as opposed to Pres. Obama's immigration reforms and actions, Democrats are NOT running ads bragging about or arguing for the superiority of their support FOR comprehensive immigration reform, according to the Weekly Standard political magazine: http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/gop-hammers-democrats-obamacare-spen...
Observing what voters were being told about the Parties from the ads, the Weekly Standard (which used to support higher immigration levels) stated:
. . . if Republicans take the Senate, it would be hard for objective observers not to view the result as a repudiation of the Democrats on immigration, spending, and -- most of all -- Obamacare. Such a result would be quite interesting, in light of previous proclamations. . . . in the wake of the 2012 election, an army of mainstream pundits and Republican consultants declared that the immigration issue would doom Republicans until they dutifully hopped aboard the amnesty train. But neither Obamacare nor amnesty is good for Main Street America, and Main Street Americans get to vote--even if the New York Times's opinion pages wish it were otherwise."
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2:20 p.m. -- IMMIGRANT TURNOUT UNLIKELY TO BE FACTOR IN CONTROL OF SENATE
Pro-amnesty pundits are starting to spin that Democratic losses tonight will be the result of Obama NOT giving out his executive amnesty BEFORE the election. Even though the percentage of immigrant voters is very small in all but a couple of the battleground states today, these pundits are claiming Democrats may lose because Obama delayed the amnesty until promised action AFTER the election.
The pro-amnesty pundits say Obama's decision has angered so many immigrants and their families that many of them will stay home today.
See Major Garrett's quotes from the pundits at: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/did-obamas-immigration-punt-backfire/
But the immigrant vote is so small in all but one of the states that only if a Democratic Senate or Governor candidate loses by a very small margin tonight can a potential depressed voter turnout among immigrants be said to have been a factor in the loss.
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1:25 p.m. -- OBAMA'S IMMIGRATION POLICIES IMPORTANT PART OF HIS FAILURE TO FULFILL PROMISES ABOUT THE MIDDLE CLASS
Stopped by the Linda's Cafe greasy spoon for a long breakfast at the counter and read every political word in the Washington Post. Quite a few references to the failure of Obama to get a comprehensive immigration reform law as feeding into his image of weak management and as discouraging some of his base voters who want the amnesty.
But what I didn't find was how Obama's obsessive years-long talking about the need to give work permits to tens of millions more foreign workers feeds into his image as a President who has no sense of what it is like for most Americans to be stuck in a decades-long wage depression, in significant part because of the country's giant surplus of workers.
Wage-earning Americans know that there are too many workers chasing too few jobs. They have no leverage.
But Pres. Obama talks only about the country's need to add more workers from OTHER countries.
To the extent that Obama's Party suffers in election returns tonight, a large part of the blame surely rests on his failure to followup on his promise after the 2012 election to use this term to stabilize the middle class and help those trying to rise to the middle class. He undercut all his efforts to fulfill that promise not only by continuing to support adding a million more lifetime work-permit immigrants each year (as required by current law) but by breaking federal law and giving out hundreds of thousands of temporary work permits to younger illegal aliens and by stating that one of his highest goals was to pass a bill that would give out around 30 million lifetime work permits over the next 10 years.
How could any of the 18 million Americans who want a full-time job but can't find one think this is a President who wants to make it easier for them to be comfortably middle class? And how could the millions more Americans who have seen real wages declining for everybody but college graduates think the President's Party cares about their middle-class status when every single Senator of that Party voted to give out 30 million lifetime work permits to foreign citizens over the next 10 years?
Updated: Tue, Nov 18th 2014 @ 1:45pm EST
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OBAMA WANTS 2 ELIMINATE THE MIDDLE CLASS BY CREATING ONLY POVERTY & RICH & THOSE OF US IN THE MIDDLE CLASS WON'T BE GETTING RICH SO WHERE ARE WE GOING? STRAIGHT INTO POVERTY BY WAY OF TAKING ALL OUR TAX DOLLARS & GIVING IT 2 ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS
Thanks for your comments but please don't use all caps.
I find all caps difficult to read.
I read something like all capital letters years ago was like yelling.
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The Difference Between an Open Border Democrat Versus an Open Border Republican
Is a fine line, they both get their campaign loot from the same foreign/corporate lobbyists. The Democrats pretend the evil lobbyists are the voters' will and the Republicans tell us they're really American Patriots as they totally evade E-verify in the workplace the last 10 years....pathetic choices we have....our candidates from both parties are all pre-selected for us.
You are so right, Martin. Repubs play the game of Good Cop Bad Cop with illegal immigration but they never actually get anything done. E-Verify, even if it were only for first time hires, would make a huge difference. I did vote straight Repub because the Dems are an even worse enemy of the country - and I was a Dem for over 60 years! Obama cured me of that.
Republican candidates in general are not leveraging the mass immigration/illegal immigration issue sufficiently, and some are not using it at all. As James Kirkpatrick writes, "As Republicans refuse to learn with their endless, pointless “outreach” to minorities, you can never out-PC the Democrats and their allies in the MSM".
http://www.vdare.com/articles/yes-virginia-dare-there-is-a-gop-war-on-wo...
I would hope that all Parties and candidates reach out to minorities of all kinds. It is good to reach out to anybody who is a U.S. citizen. The problem comes when political consultants advise catering to a special interest of one segment of the population that would be at the expense of the public at large. Immigration is often used as a "free lunch" to offer some people while sticking the public with the bill.
I agree and I think that the author used quotation marks around the word outreach to indicate precisely this kind of pandering.
Roy, Big business is the win win in this illegal alien game called amnesty. The legal constituents of this country get the tab on the public coffers since the illegals will not make enough dinero to live at a standard above the poverty line. That we can also add is because the wages are depressed with the labor glut they are enlarging.
The class of illiterate illegal aliens are going to cost the country too much while our legal citizens struggle to even maintain themselves above that poverty line. I sincerely hope the GOP has got this message but Romney is still expounding on this immigration reform discussion. I think our job in stopping these grand amnesties is far from done and it is absolutely disgusting to know the elected officials really still do not get the real picture.
But thank you and your staff for all your efforts, and we will continue our own battle with these officials.
Business groups will continue to fight for more foreign workers and amnesty, so we have much to do to prepare for 2015. In the short term we need to stop Congress from passing a long term continuing resolution, which is unlikely to defund Obama's executive amnesty. They should pass one lasting until mid-February so there is time to deal with the issue.
Roy, well stated. We were impressed with Thom Tillis' speech. He talked about this very thing. He said when one person gets a free handout from the government, some other person is losing out. That's been Obama's main principle of governing. He and George W. Bush both robbed from American taxpayers to funnel money (buy votes) to their "Chosen People." I do think society has a responsibility to help people with true disabilities, or provide TEMPORARY help to people who've suffered catastrophic losses not by their own hand, but the idea of offering handouts to get votes has to stop.
The challenge is to reach out to minorities and help them understand what excessive immigration means to them. If we booted the 7-8 million illegals that have jobs here, how many of those jobs would go to minorities? How much would the wages of minority workers increase without the downward pressure from the illegal workforce?
Tomorrow, I'll call my elected officials and Reps. McCarthy, Scalise, Spkr. Boehner and Sen. McConnell to congratulate them and tell them to secure Our Borders, among other issues. I want the Fence funded.
The fence will barely help. We need interior enforcement. Mandate E-Verify with jail for illegal employers. End birthright citizenship and the whole anchor baby nonsense.
Vince, the FACT is we need both. We wouldn't have all these illegal Central Americans carrying lethal diseases into our schools if the border were secure. California wouldn't Mexifornia if the border were secure. E-Verify doesn't get rid of the illegals who are already hired, only new hires.
Good luck with that. The Democrats want blanket amnesty to remain in power for the next 50 years----The Republicans want it for the Chamber of Commerce and big business. Different goals; same results. Note that Boehner had to tone down the call for a common sense solution for amnesty early in the election season. The working family and the middle class are the furthest from both parties' quest for power through any lie.
What good is a fence when illegals fly their way here? Get real. Those who hire or house illegals should at least be fined, or for everyday practice of aiding and abetting illegals, should be locked away for this serious crime, Obama included. Mexico, ironically, doesn't let this sh!t happen period. What's the problem you say?
Socialism under the guise of "hope and change".
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As a voter, I often wish that was a "None of the Above" option when voting. Both parties have lost the public's trust with so many issues. They are "out of touch" with what remains of the middle class and growing poor.
One can only hope that the WH and the newly elected Senate and House get the real message behind this election and do the right thing for the American people.
Illegal aliens isn't just about jobs, it’s also about our immigration laws! The immigrant of long ago followed the process required to enter the country. The immigrant of today, they don't care about the law or the immigration process. They just jump the canal without fear of reprisal because they know the current administration permits this lawlessness to flourish!
There's only one way to deal with the “illegal alien” situation and that is to vote out all congressional leaders who turn a blind eye to the situation and elect representatives who respect the law and the American People! This would preclude President Obama, his administration, the Democratic Party, and several Republicans from being re-elected to any public office!
Mitch McConnell gets 6 more years to work with the likes of Republicans McCain, Graham and Flake to push the Chamber of Commerce, Zuckerberg, Goldman Sachs cheap labor "death to the middle class" goals. How do we break out of this lock they have? Keep up the good work NumbersUSA.
Don't be discouraged. Despite spending megabucks, business groups haven't been able to break the lock the American people have on amnesty.
Yes, Van, and I believe this GOP rout is as much a message to the Neocon Republicans as it is to the Democrats. Look how close most of these races were. The Republicans have to know they won because the grass roots people got mobilized and one big issue was immigration.
Van, Is Gardner from Colorado any good on immigration issues, do you think Gardner will be any help for us?
How is Ernst on Immigration?
Any thoughts on Tillis?
See my comments that I've now posted in the blog about the Gardner race. A lot of work to do with him. He leans Chamber of Commerce.
Ernst took some good stands but also seems pretty new to a lot of immigration issues. Word is that several leaders of her campaign came from Senate offices that lean Chamber of Commerce.
Both will be far more ready to be persuaded of good policies than the Senators they replace.
In other words, a slight improvement, but we can't sit back and trust them. We've got to keep showing them who's boss, and that loyalty is a two way street.
Personally, I don't think the Republicans will take up any kind of amnesty legislation in the next two years. They paid a big price for S744 and so did the Democrats that just lost their seats in the Senate. I know the Republicans would love to pass amnesty, but I just don't think they are strong enough to anger the country with it and abandon the base and expect anything but more punishment from Americans.
I worry about Obama's executive amnesty, and the Republicans putting on a phoney fig leaf battle/law suit and then a show of throwing up their hands and mumbling " we did everything we could... Oh well". I do think that Americans kind of did what they could in this election to send a message against S744 and Obama's contempt for our immigration laws. Bravo Americans!
We have enough people at CAIRCO who will deal with Gardner. Add in the CO residents on NUmbersusa and we will have enough to talk to talk to him about what CO and the country wants and he will move back to the right if he knows whats best for his future in the Senate.
Our little weasel won too so also time to have another chat with him.
Trust us in CO to deal with our federal lawmakers when we know we can reach them.
Bennet is next up on the agenda and we need to find a candidate to take him on in 2016 with it being a Presidential year too.
No amnesty NO work permits. NO nothing but deportation
Now maybe, just maybe, we can get some comprehensive ENFORCEMENT reform. Let's start with making it a felony to enter this country ILLEGALLY with a $200 fine and 6 months in jail. This will cove both borders and all ports. Let's see how this works. If it works, apply it all the illegal aliens in this country now. Leave or if you get caught, you pay the fine. E-Verify in ALL businesses and end birthright citizenship. Let's start with this. Better idea? Let's hear it.
I am afraid John Barrow got defeated. The Chamber of Commerce endorsed him in GA.
Offical? He lost?
Roy, your candid thoughts are much appreciated. Economic growth and job creation have slowed in recent decades, yet legal immigration has increased to 1.1 million/yr, even in the most dire economic times. Every cyclic economic upturn has produced a flood of illegal immigration of up to 750,000/yr. The result is the chronic, severe labor surplus that has already destroyed almost two generations of American workers. The median male wage peaked in 1973.
As a Democrat I have mixed feelings about the election results, but I applaud the voters who removed senators who betrayed their constituents by voting for the Gang of Eight bill. If the once great Democratic Party will not replace ethnic pandering with policies that serve the common good it should be eliminated.
We won BIG in 2010 and did Nothing!Why do Americans not demand we seal/close/fence our Borders. Why do we allow Obama's backdoor amesty....even he admits his actions were unconstitutional? No Green Cards or Backdoor Amnesty. We were a Nation of Laws..Now we are a Lawless Nation!
Once there were Democrats in the Senate who had somewhat responsible positions on immigration. When the Gang of Eight immigration bill came up in 2013 I hoped that Tester and Baucus of MT, Pryor, Hagan, Landrieu and Donnelly of IN would vote against it. Instead they all betrayed the American people. Tester and Bauchus had the sense to retire. Pryor and Hagan lost yesterday, Landrieu will go in the runoff in December. The only one left is Joe Donnelly, but he has to run for reelection too. He can reform or look for another job.
Oops, Tester is still in the Senate.
I'd Like to correct myself. In my previous statement, I said a $200 fine and six months in jail. I ment to say $2000 fine and six minths in jail. This will cover the southern border and the northern border plus all ports of entry. Applying this to all the illegal aliens in this country now, I think they will leave and self deport. This will save deportation costs, open up jobs for Americans and save the taxpayers BILLIONS upon BILLIONS in benefits they get in free health care, schooling and everything else. You can't give amnesty to 12-20 million illegal aliens. That is INSANE!
It is clear from the President's conference, he is going to go forward anyway and doesn't care about unemployed Americans or further displacement of Americans from work. With the Gangsters of 8 still there, I don't trust the R's still despite their gains. They don't seem to get or choose to ignore, this wasn't a vote for them. It was a vote against immigration and the actions and policies of this administration. And all I hear is further bending over and worry about how Hispanic voters feel instead of worrying about how Americans including Hispanic voters feel about job losses, no hope for the future and more people coming to displace them from event the most basic of jobs or the most technical of jobs and from prime school slots who cater to admissions based on race or ethnic groups rather than economics of the applicant who is an American. And with advanced robots now entering stores such as Burger King and even Lowes and farming, where is everyone going to work? Even the most basic jobs are going to be gone and we are inviting more people? The new faces of the ghettos are Americans of all races and ethnic groups due to the massive assault and influx and invasion of illegals. We didn't get enough of the establishment out of the Beltway (the gated community of DC).
Just heard Obama's news conference, he didn't learn a thing last night. If I heard him correctly, it's "CIR" or executive actions. Thanks to the NUSA folks! Let's keep up the fight and make him veto a clean E-Verify bill.
A one-page E-Verify bill would be excellent, Vince.
But the Republican leadership has to want attrition through enforcement. At this time, they seem to want cheap, illegal labor more.
Don't forget the part about all work including current employees and independent contractor work too.
NO amnesty. NO work permits. NO nothing but deportation.
Caroline; the little weasel got a large margin of victory. Doubt he will learn anything from it though.
Everyone talks about the importance of the Hispanic vote. But how many Hispanics are actually American citizens and are entitled to vote? Even a legal immigrant doesn't have the right to vote. Is it any wonder that the Democrats don't want voter I.D. laws enacted.
In 2012 the Hispanic vote was about 10% of the total. In the election this year, Republicans worried more about the concerns of the other 90%, and they will have more seats in the House in January than at any time since Herbert Hoover was president 80 years ago.
Roy Beck, I think it would be helpful ...
if one political leader, high enough up to make a commitment and make it stick (Speaker of the House, Senate Majority Leader, or President), were to say:
"No Amnesty, Never".
This would send the message that sneaking into the country Illegally is fruitless. The smuggler will keep the $10k, and the Illegal will be sent back home penniless after capture. Criminals are rational; the prospect of loosing $10k for naught is simple for them to figure: keep the money, stay home.
We can deal with the rest of them as the police capture them in the commission of other crimes, at the current rate of about 34,000 per week: deport them all, over time.
What do you think ?
It would make a big difference but we're talking about Boehner and McConnell who would go for amnesty under the right circumstances. Thankfully we have some champions who can educate the new Members of Congress and create new champions
Amnesty for any Crime produces More Criminals Committing said Crime.
Van, keep reminding Boehner (or his replacement) and McConnell (or his replacement) of the above.
You would just get another, bigger Illegal wave.
Republicans must learn that it would = suicide.
Amnesty wouldn't work, so don't do it.
Odd. Obama certainly has not gotten any message: he vows to go forward. Amnesty is mentioned as well as expanding the number of educated foreign workers.
So many Americans get it. The political leadership must only talk to the special interests dismissing the poor under employed and the educated unemployed as not smart enough to get it.
Agree John Obama is so arrogant and cannot believe this election was about his and his policies. For him to go ahead with the Executive Order on Amnesty show he is defiant. My only hope is that the new Congress, passes a bill to supersede that executive order.
Would Obama's proposed amnesty be work permits for a two-year period as DACA is? Many Americans would lose their jobs, and it would cause a new surge on the border.
Would the new Congress be able to rescind it?
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