By Dave Gorak, Thursday, October 1, 2009, 2:37 PM EST - posted on NumbersUSA

The president has talked a lot since taking office about creating new energy guidelines, and the White House paid the usual lip service to Earth Day. But I’m wondering: How does this president square his energy and environmental concerns with his apparent willingness to continue fueling our population growth with a reckless immigration policy that benefits only vote-hungry politicians and companies fearful of losing their abundant supply of cheap foreign labor?
In other words, when those charged with establishing these “needed” energy guidelines that would include reducing greenhouse gases finally sit down and begin their calculations, will they take into account the Census Bureau’s population projections for 2100? Whichever Census projection one chooses to believe - 600 million or 1 billion – I’m thinking: Good luck!
Look at it this way: If for years it’s been nearly impossible to convince the American people that they must reduce what today is commonly known as their “carbon footprint,” just how much success will the federal government have in convincing millions more immigrants, especially those from impoverished countries, that they’re going to have to scale back their search for a better life? Will, for example, the government have to place limits on the number of children per household? Outlaw new homes exceeding a set number of square feet? And (gasp!) allow no more than two cars per family? How will all this work if the Congress refuses to deal with the central question?
Unless we get serious about cutting back legal immigration levels and removing all incentives for illegal immigration, then I think the gloomy forecast offered by George F. Kennan in his 1994 book “Around the Cragged Hill” will come to pass:
It is obviously easier, for the short run, to draw cheap labor from adjacent pools of poverty…than to find it among one’s own people. And to the billions of such prospective immigrants from poverty to prosperity, there is, rightly or wrongly, no place that looks more attractive than the United States. Given its head, and subject to no restrictions, this pressure will find its termination only when the levels of overpopulation and poverty in the United States are equal to those of the countries from which these people are now so anxious to escape.
DAVE GORAK is a retired career journalist and has been executive director of the Midwest Coalition to Reduce Immigration since 2001
Martin 1153 of WA
Sun, 10/04/2009 - 1:06pm
September 2009 Job Losses Only at 247K?????
We're letting in 160K legal immigrants in each month with 15 million [its probably more like 30 million IMO] unemployed backlog....and job losses ???? each month [my guess is 300K-900K, the 247K figure is WAY too rosy] per the following "incomplete BLS analysis" available to date:
This is for Aug 2009 [the 213K BLS wild guess month], not Sep 2009's 247K per month wild guess, article in part:
"...Table C. States with statistically significant employment changes from July 2009 to
August 2009, seasonally adjusted
July August Over-the-month
2009 2009 p change p
Alabama........................................... 1,909,800 1,895,800 -14,000
Georgia............................................ 3,888,400 3,853,400 -35,000
Hawaii.............................................. 601,000 594,500 -6,500
Illinois............................................... 5,667,600 5,648,400 -19,200
Kansas............................................. 1,342,200 1,335,900 -6,300
Maryland.......................................... 2,548,500 2,536,500 -12,000
Michigan........................................... 3,864,000 3,821,100 -42,900
Minnesota........................................ 2,654,400 2,644,100 -10,300
Mississippi........................................ 1,118,400 1,108,800 -9,600
Montana........................................... 438,700 443,800 5,100
North Dakota.................................... 371,500 368,700 -2,800
Ohio................................................. 5,127,400 5,097,300 -30,100
Oregon............................................. 1,631,500 1,624,900 -6,600
Tennessee....................................... 2,664,200 2,649,100 -15,100
Texas............................................... 10,406,500 10,344,300 -62,200
Washington...................................... 2,864,200 2,851,800 -12,400
p = preliminary...."
The rest of the URL:
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/laus.pdf
BTW, the total job losses for Aug 2009 per the Table C above is 290.1K, yet excludes 26 job loss states....LOL
Indiana is one of the excluded states from Table C and was shedding jobs at 14,800/mo from Aug 2008-Aug 2009 [see Table D in BLS report URL above].
Until I see 50 state visibility in the BLS data, I see the 216K for Aug 2009 a completely wild guess, let alone the 247K they came up for Sep 2009 [not yet analysed since the latest Sep18 2009 report] as anything credible either.
Are they lying about America's monthly job losses [as horrifying as their lies are] to justify high legal immigration rates? I think they are. You can't prove me wrong....LOL
Laurel6425 of IL
Sat, 10/03/2009 - 11:32pm
What a horrifying photo, Richard6783. And this is Obama's policy:
"Obama and EPA allow mountaintop coal removal. Much to the dismay of environmental groups the Obama Administration has allowed 42 of 48 mountain top removals for coal mining in Kentucky, West Virginia and Ohio. Obama is clearly playing primary politics. He is also giving these heavy coal producing states a chit in exchange for a carbon cap and trade program which will raise industry and utility costs in these three states."
(Boston Environmental Policy Examiner, John Anderson)
Renee9442 of VA
Sat, 10/03/2009 - 5:51pm
Cap and Trade is a way of controlling people. So the more illegals, the more people they control and suck money out of. The new green is the old red. Most environmental groups were infiltrated by former communists who had nowhere to go after 89 when the Berlin Wall came down. Even Patrick More, former founder of Greenpeace, quit his own group in disgust because as he said, they don't want a cleaner environment, they want the power to destroy this country. Patrick More also would like for us to go with nuclear power, because he sees that it is clean and safe. Just look to France. But no..these people will not accept any alternative until we are living in dirt. That's why solar panels can't be made in CA and will be farmed out to China, who will make the profit. They will thwart every effort to even get anything green done even though that is what they espouse. The Sierra Club has many of these subversives, and the Democrat party is overrun with them. The Republican party has closed a blind eye to illegals for the cheap labor, and maybe they've started to learn better or maybe not. Congress STILL keeps approving visas to foreign nationals to do the "jobs Americans won't do" and one glimmer of hope has been that Republican leaders have started to vote against this. Or maybe it's just to be against the Democrats. What does perfidious mean?
Richard6783 of MA
Sat, 10/03/2009 - 3:57pm
These two papers on immigration to the US were written by a Mexican dissident political scientist who served as an advisor to Fox and Calderon and first published by the CIS are great. It shows the perfidiousness of American politicians and why they are ignoring their own constituent citizens.
Walter9334 of CA
Sat, 10/03/2009 - 11:20am
We have a big illegal alien problem here in California due to the California politicians not taking positive action to address the illegal immigration issues. No wonder our state is broke and our jails are full.
Frank0223 of NY
Sat, 10/03/2009 - 6:15am
America, America,how gracious you have been. you have been my country for seventy nine years. I have seen you at what I believe your best. I have now seen you at your worst Oh America what has happenned to you. You used to have the strength to choose among you leaders of, by the people, for the people, give me liberty or give me death, what is happening to you???
I can tell you, you have lost your self respect, your morals have gone down the tubes. Why? You have denied the God whoes courage you used to draw from. The God of the Bible who taught you and gave you the basis to build our country,a country to allow the right to be right and the wrong to be just that, wrong.... Now the right is wrong and the wrong is right.
Is it to late? Maybe for you who have lost your faith in the God of the Bible but not me. I'm getting on my knees and beg for forgiveness for my part in allowing our beautiful land to be polluted with those who pretend to have the ability to bring CHANGE, but instead, bring destruction, God help us! May God once again bless America to be what He wants us to be and for us to look to Him the God of the Bible, through Jesus Christ to be our LEADER!!!!
Evelyn3071 of AL
Sat, 10/03/2009 - 12:13pm
Don't blame God for the mess we are in. We did this to ourselves with wrong choices "give me" attitudes, and blame on the other fellow. We have not had an accountability to anyone including ourselves in years now we are paying for it. Illegal immigration is just part of the problem.
Jack3478 of OK
Fri, 10/02/2009 - 6:55pm
Jack Kinch(1uncle) I have been saying this for a a few years now. I'm glad you're saying it now. Spread it around. Keep saying it. Thank You.
Caroline7445 of CO
Fri, 10/02/2009 - 5:54pm
I just heard that the latest Rasmussen poll stated that Americans consider corruption as the number one greatest problem facing the U.S. That fits right into the immigration situation.
"Representatives" don't represent their constituents. They represent those who contribute to their campaigns. Those are:
1) Businesses that benefit from illegal labor
2) Those individuals who wish Democrats to stay in power.
Horace2066 of OH
Fri, 10/02/2009 - 4:59pm
You rigth,Obama no only is worsen more of Bush,he no have any hearth for we peoples.We must impeach Obama,si how many Mex ilegal have here?all are under a control of drug dealer Mex cartel,today in OH police stop a car,what do you thing?Mex with a lot drugs.Another are 1500 worker fire is will sell a drug for send monet back to Mex,nice?I acused Obama and (D) to
incite Mex ilegal come to usa,I am Latino and I know what I said.month ago a group of Mex,attack a white citizen.I was vote for Obama,but now no way no my support to a president incite ilegal come here and not obey a inmigration law.He is not more a president for me.
Sonny7601 of TX
Fri, 10/02/2009 - 3:21pm
Why can't congress do something constructive? Illegal aliens cost the American taxpayer $90 billion dollars per year. We have $11 billion dollars per year in health care fraud. If an illegal immigrant is born on American soil they are an American citizen. 1.change the law, not an American citizen if born on American soil,2.stop giving free health care, education, bi-lingual teachers, free school lunches, and wic to illegal aliens.
I think $90 billion is a low estimate for illegal aliens when you consider incarceration, time waiting in local jails for trial, court cost, jobs taken away from American citizens, deportation if it ever happens and other goverenment programs. Obama wants to legalize 12 to 20 million illegal aliens giving them access to even more goverenment programs.
Please let the socialist people like Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Gene Green, Dick Durbin, Roland Burris, Bernie Sanders, Kirsten Gillegrand, Bob Casey, Pat Leahy and Shedon Whitehouse know how you feel about this in 2010 and 2012.
John5722 of ND
Fri, 10/02/2009 - 6:43pm
Illegal immigrants cost the US 346 billion per year. Look at all the hospitals that had to close down because of illegal immigrants. what about all the money spent on mexicans that cross the border ever day just to go to school. It is actually criminal to let this continue.
Caroline7445 of CO
Fri, 10/02/2009 - 10:50am
As a lifelong Democrat who has watched the parties change over the years, I totally agree with Christine's assessment. Democrats are not all good and Republicans are not all bad, or vice versa. They are all POLITICANS and most care only about themselves. That is why we must look at our own representatives' stance on immigration and the environment and vote accordingly.
Obama has been a great disappointment. His words and his actions on the environment do not match.
Albert3441 of PA
Fri, 10/02/2009 - 9:21am
Kudos to Dave Gorak for this powerful and succinct exposé of the hypocrisy of the current administration on environmental issues. Christine6674 of WA’s comments are an excellent follow-up, not only about President Obama’s alleged commitment to a healthy environment, but about the failure of the 2-party system to deal honestly with environmental problems. Thomas2924 of IN has defined the problem precisely, viz, that every public measure taken to halt or even slow environmental degradation is directly undercut by massive, uncontrolled US population growth. Politicians of both parties have basically chloroformed this issue by agreeing not to talk about it. The reason is that they know that US overpopulation is almost entirely the result of the government’s mass immigration policies. Since talking about population control would necessarily require a discussion of immigration control, they are not going to go anywhere near it. If ever there was a conspiracy of silence on an issue in American politics, this is it.
Robert and Doreen8684 of MT
Fri, 10/02/2009 - 8:43am
If the President was in the least serious about his carbon footprint, WHY would he and the first lady each take a separate plane to Denmark? This President is no different than many members of Congress who say, "Do as I say, not as I do".
Richard6783 of MA
Fri, 10/02/2009 - 4:25am
http://www.alleghenyfront.org/img/contrib/MTROverview1_med.jpg
Mountaintop Removal
Christine6674 of WA
Thu, 10/01/2009 - 9:53pm
Don't be fooled by Obama's words on the environment. His words do not match his actions. I am an environmentalist; I know the facts because it is my primary concern, with the illegal alien issue a close second.
And don't lock the political parties into the pigeon holes we have always found them; politics is very different now than throughout my lifetime. I'm 65, a life long Democrat; my parents were Democrats, and the Democrats of yesteryear are not the same today. They are just as conniving and diabolical as the Republicans, and they no longer stand for the working class, the poor, the military, and the environment. Both parties are in the pocket of the people who get them elected, and there is not a chance of changing it as long as they can pit us against each other, which they do very successfully. When people stop voting Democrat or Republican and start voting out incumbents, they will start taking us seriously.
If you believe Obama puts the environment above his business buddies (like Byrd and Rockefeller, both Dems in WV along with Gov Mansion D), you really need to look up the Op Ed pieces Robert Kennedy Jr wrote about Obama's Mountaintop Removal, destroying Appalachia, the oldest hardwood forest ON EARTH, and in the process, poisoning those people who live there.
Obama no more cares about our environment than he cares about the millions of unemployed Americans because illegal aliens have their jobs. He talks a great talk but he doesn't walk the walk - on anything. As long as even one American is unemployed, there should not be any foreign workers here, legal or illegal.
He said he would follow the Science; well Dr James Hansen, the leading climate Science expert (NASA) demonstrated in isolated Coal River WV against Obama's quietly giving the green light to blowing the tops off mountains. Not just the trees (and animals) blown to smithereens - up to a third of the top blown off - the rocky structure - fine ground silica in the air, water, land. Heavy metals in the air, water, land. Arsenic, lead, mercury, selenium. 500 mountains blown up, 1200 miles of streams dead. Obama DOES NOT want cap and trade; he says he does because he knows it won't happen.
Don't be fooled by Obama. I was, and it took me a long time to accept the facts. His words do not match his actions. That's the facts.
John5100 of CO
Fri, 10/02/2009 - 3:37pm
I just heard we lost the Summer Olympics to Rio. I guess the Olympic committee saw thru the lies that Obama has been telling and the crooks he has been appointing as csars.
Laurel6425 of IL
Thu, 10/01/2009 - 10:07pm
Christine, what is this Mountaintop Removal you are talking about? It sounds intriguing. Is this a bill recently passed, or something he voted on during his Senate days?
Obama doesn't care about anyone except himself, and people are finally seeing through his polished exterior.
Thomas2924 of IN
Fri, 10/02/2009 - 4:53pm
Barack Obama has a very good record on environmental issues; most liberal Democrats do. However, for every tree they save with environmental legislation they probably kill five with immigration-driven population increase. A forest or field turned into a subdivision or strip mall is a permanent, 100% loss. If Congress submitted an environmental impact statement on our immigration policy, people would wonder why we bother to require them for anything else. The sum of all the other things we do doesn't come close to the impact of more people.
Loss of open space and destruction and degradation of wild areas are obvious impacts, but preserving safe air and water also becomes increasingly difficult as our population grows. The more people there are, the less we can rely on the natural environment to dissipate pollution. And, because everyone pollutes, the greater our population, the tighter, more intrusive, and expensive the measures that must be applied to each person, just to prevent more cancer, gastrointestinal, lung and cardiovascular disease.
But, there is a cheap, easy solution to our environmental problems. If we adopted rational, moderate immigration policies, our population growth would slow and eventually stop. To me, that is the environmental promised land. And, like it or not, it is the only one.
George7533 of FL
Fri, 10/02/2009 - 10:39pm
I strongly agree that uncontrolled immigration, legal or illegal is harmful to the environment, because the more population you have the more the pollution. We should only let people immigrate according to the law, and if the law is bad it should be changed immediately.
We are a country of laws, and everybody should abide by the law. If an immigrant has come to the States illegally he or she should be immediately sent back to the place he or she came from. After all, by coming to the States without the proper papers, is breaking the law. We should never compensate those who break the law. When the world sees that by breaking the law you can be admitted a little later, such as amnesties given by presidents, strictly for political reasons, is a criminal act to start with.
I am tired of both political parties, Democrats and Republicans who do nothing and look the other way. I am tired of hearing that there are too many illegals in this country now, and nothing can be done. This is irresponsible reasoning. Immediate action is needed now.
Al6076 of CA
Fri, 10/02/2009 - 11:24pm
I certainly agree with you George. The Republicans and the Democrats who can't seem to be able to enforce the immigration laws they have passed are dividing the issue and weakening any agreement for passage of enforcement.
I too am tired of the BS from the politicians. I think the immediate action that we need is for every citizen opposed to illegal immigration to write their senators, congressmen, representatives state and federal and tell them how we feel. Politicians seem to live in their own world and it's not until there is a massive uproar will they get the message to enforce the law or get out of the way.
Richard2467 of TX
Thu, 10/01/2009 - 4:35pm
Obama always talks about the enviorment while we keep importing illegal aliens. Illegal aliens have filled our deserts with trash, human waste and destroyed endangered plants. The Coronado National Forest has become a dumping ground. Where is the Sierra Club? In addition to the enviorment, our standard of living keeps falling due to the crime, poverty and overpopulation Reid and Pelosi keep forcing upon us. The madness never ends!
Terri0802 of IL
Fri, 10/02/2009 - 4:03pm
So far as I know, the Sierra Club is adamantly opposed to illegal immigration and amnesty. I think their voice is drowned out by the people who seek to gain from porous borders.
Vince0041 of PA
Mon, 10/05/2009 - 9:14am
Hi Terri,
Hate to say it, but the Sierra Club sold out. Here's a link... http://articles.latimes.com/2004/oct/27/local/me-donor27
MD2510 of MA
Thu, 10/01/2009 - 3:50pm
Wow, so much wisdom packed in half a page. Many people today in the US have this view that some magical entity (God or whatever you call it) created the first class infrastructure, wealth and jobs in the country and like a store opening its door for the day, people rushed in to enjoy it all. They do not understand that people created what we have in the last few hundred years and that you cannot retain a higher standard of life than other countries without value creation, differentiation and borders. Like the laws of physics, once the standard of living equalize, the flows will stop but by then we would have fallen way lower.
James7427 of IA
Thu, 10/01/2009 - 3:45pm
Unfortunately, I think most people who call themselves "environmentalists" are fashion-conscious types who want to look and sound good by saying they are for "green lifestyles". But when push comes to shove, I don't think most of them are willing to take the most important actions necessary to preserve the ecological health of our country since those actions 1) would often come into conflict with other aspects of their political ideology and 2) would mean they would have to make serious sacrifices and changes in their own lifestyles. The U.S. overpopulation threat due to immigration as well as continued opposition to nuclear power are excellent examples of the former.
Muriel4275 of CT
Fri, 10/02/2009 - 4:47pm
All of these emails are informative and eye-openeers.
Americans must insist Congress and the President adhere
STRICTLY to the Constitution of the U.S.A. That means:
The President is legally obligated to show his birth certificate.
Don't pay for any CZARS. Citizens did not vote them in
and they do not answer to the people. They have absolutely no right to govern nor to be an expense to a
country already TRILLIANS in debt.
Try to invade any country in the world and demand
citizenship and all its benefits. That is absurd! However, since it is necessary in the U.S.A.s-p-e-l-l it
out and make it retroactive. Invaders are NOT citizens.
They are thieves. If you think they cost America billions, you are not looking at half the total cost.
Usually, a foreign country planting their flag on
the soil, means THEY OWN IT. No president, no congress has a right to sell out America. It is a government by WE THE PEOPLE.
Jerel9987 of AZ
Fri, 10/02/2009 - 3:33pm
Actually I think most of them (really, I am one) just aren't aware of the problem in those terms and it's up to use to, gently, educate them.
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Ed9493 of TX
Mon, 10/05/2009 - 11:33am
Re: Obama’s stance on energy/environment doesn't jibe with his
Overpopulation, congestion, urban sprwal, vanishing farm land and green space, crumbling infrastructure, diminishing resources, overcrowded schools and hospitals, an overstressed energy sector, crime, pollution, lack of affordable housing, depressed wages, increased tax burdens, the marginalization of American workers, taxpayers and voters, the overall decline in quality of life, are all the result of unconstrained immigration. Regardless of how anyone tries to 'spin' this issue, the fact remains that 'too many people competing for the same limited resources is NOT sane, sustainable social, economic or environmental policy'!
Indeed, all of this administrations 'green energy initiatives' and 'green energy alternatives' cannot succeed unless we take affirmative steps to stabilize population growth resulting from immigration. Solar, wind, hydro, geo-thermal, bio-fules, all require vast amounts of land and water if they are to become viable, affordable alternative energy sources. Vast amounts of land and water that are increasingly expensive and in short supply as the result of overpopulation. Consumers and investors will not likely benefit from 'alternative energy resources' if the energy produced is 'problematic to use', and costs much more than existing 'non-green' energy. Further, the cost for such alternative energy resources will only increase as the supply of such energy resources is 'consumed' by population growth through immigration' before these resources can even be brought on-line. Legislators cite our reliance on 'foreign oil', yet they never consider truly reducing our dependence on 'foreign energy' by simply stabilizing our out-of-control population growth resulting from unsustainable levels of immigration. There are no problems confronting America's citizens that would not be measurably improved by securing our borders and ports, enforcing our immigration laws, and curtailing immigration to only that which is prudent, demonstrably necessary, readily assimilated, and above all other concerns, only that which serves the interests of American workers and families.