How do we KNOW that passing the Vitter “No Match” would supersede the DHS’s decisions to scrap no match rule?

NumbersUSA Moderator: A law passed by Congress always supersedes a departmental order.

Cynthia of Tx.

One of your remarks shouted loud and clear something we should be aware of, fertility drugs for purpose of anchor children, and for purpose of increasing population in United States. E-verify is imperative. We must stand up for the rights of American citizens.

Deloris
Deloris1935@cox.net

I like Ralph's analogy of the checkers game.

All you have to do is join me in watching the local Spanish stations preaching the message!

I am convinced that they agreed to the fence and E-verify because if they get amnesty approved there is no need for E-Verify. They become legal and E-Verify just doesn't matter.

As Schumer says after the fence (he was hoping for only the virtual fence that couldn't stop the rushing return) there should be sympathy for granting more green cards, visas & etc for family and friends. Then the question becomes how many more cheap labors we need and the Chamber of Commerce gets their votes for many many more to return 'if' the economy returns.

(I don't like making conspiracy charges so I have been watching the enemy's comments to their friends on Spanish channels to verify). Numbers do you watch/listen?

Good points Matthew of AZ.
Yes this is all just too convenient. For years we can't get any enforcement acts passed, then in a couple days we get 4? And the same day Schumer is announcing his Amnesty, and the day after Napolitano cancels a work order which is then moved over into an amendment that "passes", but is not guaranteed to ever make it past committee (run by Reid and Pelosi, please).
The sum total of all this sound and fury is that nothing has changed, no enforcement laws have passed, there will be less effective work rules from the administration, and Amnesty has been announced. It's all very sterile and controlled, isn't it? I'm sure the word is out in Spanish language media that this is all just a bluff to make the reps look good enough to pass "their" amnesty, and don't worry, none of these things will ever really happen.
Consider this, if the admin kept the No Match rule, it would be a work rule and would begin immediately, or within whatever time frame they say. But if they roll it up into an amendment, then they can keep misleading the people by pleading, "Oh, that's in a bill now, we just have to wait for what the committee says".
Then of course, every single day the bill is not being voted on the No Match standard is not being implemented. So the corrupt status quo continues on for all "sides" in DC.
No, this all stinks. We need to start a bunch of faxes which specifically state something like:
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Dear Representative or Senator,
"We are aware of false fronts and cheap innuendo, and we will not fall for such manipulations. The pain of the American people is very real, and is getting worse day by day. 565,000 more American jobs were lost this week! You cannot allow 10 million jobs to be held illegally by foreign citizens while 15 million Americans have no money coming in what so ever.
We won't just live in the gutter. You need to stop this Polly Anna dream world of immigration crime and start passing real laws and real work standards, across the board and nationwide. Only full American citizen employment could ever let the illegal immigration debate rekindle.

NumbersUSA Moderator: Keep in mind that the White House and the Senate appear to be at odds over these amendments. Far from working together, they are opposing one another.  E-Verify is a coveted bargaining chip for the amnesty crowd. If these amendments are signed into law, they lose that chip. Let's not waste this opportunity.

Well Chuck Shummer is running around saying he'll have his amnesty bill ready by Labor Day:
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hrL7yuyUVclkim1xKb98eQ...
And Mark Krikorian is pointing out that the Obama admin is supporting E-verify (but not until Sept and only for newly hired workers, leaving all the illegals illegally holding millions of jobs still holding them), while at the same time abandoning the No Match rule which would have caught EVERY worker who is using a fake Social Security number. Obviously enforcing a smaller and less effective program while canceling a larger and very effective program.
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=M2EwZTY2NDkxNDA5YWM4OTVkZThhMmM...
It looks like all this amendment passing is just to trick us with mirages of fake progress, then for politicians to declare themselves qualified as "law enforcers" then ram through illegal alien amnesty.
I think we need to start rounds of faxes and calls right now saying we know this scam that they are trying, and don't they dare try to pass amnesty until every illegally held job is open again for Americans, and all illegal aliens are made to return home.
We should pressure them everyday, making it clear we won't be fooled by fake amendments and hypocritical rule changes.

NumbersUSA Moderator: If the amendments passed by the Senate are signed into law, they will supercede the White House's position.

Seems awfully suspicious to me. All of a sudden the democrats are big on enforcement. Doesn't wash. Last week they were shooting down E-Verify amendments. Yesterday on the Department of Homeland Security web site Napolitano said she was rescinding the No-Match letters because they were undependable. I think the democrats are pulling another 1986 scam on us.
They are trying to take away our ammunition which is the lack of Enforcement and Securing the border. Now they can say, "see we want enforcement, so we want the amnesty too." Then they pull the rug out from under us AGAIN like they did after the 1986 amnesty.
I don't trust them at all! Following is Napolitano's statement:
Secretary Napolitano Strengthens Employment Verification with Administration's Commitment to E-Verify
Release Date: July 8, 2009
For Immediate Release
Office of the Press Secretary
Contact: 202-282-8010
Department of Homeland Security (DHS) Secretary Janet Napolitano today strengthened employment eligibility verification by announcing the Administration’s support for a regulation that will award federal contracts only to employers who use E-Verify to check employee work authorization. The declaration came as Secretary Napolitano announced the Department's intention to rescind the Social Security No-Match Rule, which has never been implemented and has been blocked by court order, in favor of the more modern and effective E-Verify system.
“E-Verify is a smart, simple and effective tool that reflects our continued commitment to working with employers to maintain a legal workforce,” said Secretary Napolitano. “Requiring those who seek federal contracts to use this system will create a more reliable and legal workforce. The rule complements our Department’s continued efforts to strengthen immigration law enforcement and protect critical employment opportunities. As Senator Schumer and others have recognized, we need to continue to work to improve E-Verify, and we will.”
E-Verify, which compares information from the Employment Eligibility Verification Form (I-9) against federal government databases to verify workers’ employment eligibility, is a free web-based system operated by DHS in partnership with the Social Security Administration (SSA). The system facilitates compliance with federal immigration laws and helps to deter unauthorized individuals from attempting to work and also helps employers avoid employing unauthorized aliens.
The federal contractor rule extends use of the E-Verify system to covered federal contractors and subcontractors, including those who receive American Recovery and Reinvestment Act funds. After a careful review, the Administration will push ahead with full implementation of the rule, which will apply to federal solicitations and contract awards Government-wide starting on September 8, 2009.
On average, one thousand employers sign up for E-Verify each week, totaling more than 134,000 employers representing more than half a million locations nationwide. Westat, an independent research firm, found that 96.9 percent of all queries run through E-Verify are automatically confirmed work-authorized within 24 hours. The figure is based on statistics gathered from October through December 2008. Since October 1, 2008, E-Verify has processed more than six million queries. In an April 2009 American Customer Satisfaction Index Survey of over a thousand E-Verify participants, E-Verify scored 83 out of a possible 100 points—well above the latest federal government satisfaction index of 69 percent.
In addition to expanding participation, DHS continues to enhance E-Verify in order to guard against errors, enforce compliance, promote proper usage, and enhance security. Recent E-Verify advancements include new processes to reduce typographical errors and new features to reduce initial mismatches. In May 2008, DHS added access to naturalization database records which increased the program’s ability to automatically verify naturalized citizens’ status, reducing citizenship-related mismatches by 39 percent. Additionally, in February 2009, the agency incorporated Department of State passport data in the E-Verify process to reduce mismatches among foreign-born citizens. Other initiatives underway will bring further improvements to Federal database accuracy; add new tools to prevent fraud, misuse, and discrimination; strengthen training, monitoring, and compliance; and enhance privacy protections.
DHS will be proposing a new regulation rescinding the 2007 No-Match Rule, which was blocked by court order shortly after issuance and has never taken effect. That rule established procedures that employers could follow if they receive SSA No-Match letters or notices from DHS that call into question work eligibility information provided by employees. These notices most often inform an employer many months or even a year later that an employee’s name and Social Security Number provided for a W-2 earnings report do not match SSA records—often due to typographical errors or unreported name changes. E-Verify addresses data inaccuracies that can result in No-Match letters in a more timely manner and provides a more robust tool for identifying unauthorized individuals and combating illegal employment.
As Governor of Arizona, Secretary Napolitano signed legislation mandating all employers in the State use E-Verify. Implementation of this legislation has received high marks from employers across Arizona and the USCIS Ombudsman (in a December 2008 report).
For more information on E-Verify, visit www.uscis.gov/everify.

NumbersUSA Moderator: The number of Senate Democrats voting against the White House is an interesting development. We have to keep the pressure on (especially Democrats) to ensure that these measures are not stripped out in committee again.

Wow it is hard to believe they are passing our items. I know I am calling my Senators almost daily now. I keep waiting for the other shoe to drop, especially after hearing Shummer run off about amnesty. I keep wondering when they will sneak that back on us. I wish they would keep going on these critical issues like Grasslay's amendment, loopholes on H1b visas, chain migration, drive through anchor babies--my own gynecologist said he was getting requests for fertility meds from 16 year old illegal aliens for the anchor baby since they sense amnesty coming and English language becoming the official language and English is one of the few things that unites our nation of immigrants as one. I would like to see these critical periphal issues resolved and passed through the House as well and signed by the President before amnesty even dream act amnesty or ag amnesty or guest workers, healtcare, cap and trade, a second stimulus etc are even debated or voted on again. I want to know my taxes are going to American citizens first and legal residents second before I even think about anyone else in another country or from another country and I am tired of people violating our laws and getting preferential treatment even over people who try to enter legally and follow our laws. I don't care what party or race these clowns in DC are from, this nonenforcment has now attacked what it means to be an American. If they can't support Americans, they need someone to run against them in the primary and the general election. Too many Americans are unemployed and raising our taxes when these issues are pending is just gross. Absent a natural diaster or someone serving our country in the miitary, there is no excuse for what has happened.