Obama is not going to listen, nor does he care one way or the other what LEGAL US CITIZENS have to say about AMNESTY. Shortly after he won the election, he and McCain began working on an Amnesty Plan, which Harry (Greed) Reid is now pushing.

Remember the McCain/Kennedy Amnesty Bill? McCain clearly stated in one of his speeches to a Latino group in June of 2008, "I am for amnesty, yesterday, today, and tomorrow."

Face it folks the majority of politicians in the US only care about what's in it for them, how it will benefit them. Hey, Caroline Kennedy says she wants to be Senator of New York. She doesn't say that she would like to be "considered" for Senator. What is her resume, she's a Kennedy and she's good at fundraising. Oh, that DEFINITELY qualifies her to be a US Senator (NOT)! Once again, the elitists making demands! If she thinks she's royalty, she should move to the UK. She refuses to reveal her financial status unless she's appointed. Do I hear bribery?

And of course, Harry Reid is fully behind her. She can join him and the elite Princess Pelosi. The US already has the military on alert in case there is any domestic violence due to the economic disaster that we're in.

If you saw the news last night, there was his honor, our Pres Elect, Mr. McCain (by the way is he still a Senator?), and of course Lindsey Graham, discussing, you guessed right, Amnesty. Is it time to fire up the faxes?

Dear Roy:

If you had published more of my message beyond the opening sentence, it might have altered the readers' perceptions a little! Having received the full text of my message, you are certainly aware that I am hardly a depressed, cringing-in-the-corner citizen. Far from it. I am an active Republican, a retired veteran and I run a blog dealing with political and social concerns from the traditionalist standpoint. (www.xanga.com/STEVENPILL)

My key point was (and remains) that the Obama administration and its prime supporters will have NO inclination at all to entertain your measure. The Democrat Platform is pro-amnesty. So are its primary backers... including Obama himself. Were they to acknowledge or act upon a tough immigration law, they would be acting against their own established political base. They will no more do this than they would break their ties with George Soros. They understand politics. They also understand the necessity of consolidating their power.

My point is not that the Immigration Movement should hide and cringe, but that its emphasis should be directed elsewhere where it can still make some progress. By this I mean the states and localities. This is where the most progress has historically been made and where it should continue until, in days to come, greater sanity reigns in Washington. That day will be years incoming, at best. Therefore, the campaign should continue at the grassroots level.

One last. People like Obama and those around him will not only ignore such a petition. They will regard it as an act of supplication and, thereby, view it with amused contempt. This is the nature of such people. Conversely, to be ignored and overriden by common citizens and see an advancing agenda in the states, independent of themselves, is a blow to their egos. Only if Obama sees a swelling movement on the local levels that promises ever greater success... only then might he feel inclined to deal with its participants. In dealing with such politicians as he- as with foreign despots- one must negociate from a basis of proven strength.

I am among the depressed over election results, but that makes me want to fight even more. We need to fight with everything we have, faxes, petitions, letter writing, whatever honorable is at our disposal. I'm NOT giving up the fight! As long as there's life in us, there's hope for our nation and her laws!! Depressing is to give up, and if we do that, they have for sure won the battle!! So, fellow Americans, let's join hands, strive on, and keep trying to rid the nation of this problem. Together we're a team (Democrats or Republicans we're all Americans!), and we CAN WIN!! You Betcha we can!! Sarah Palin hasn't given up fighting for the people, why should we?

I hope petitions help but the Ag corporations want that cheap immigrant labor for corporate farms after they drive the 2 million farm families off their land. THAT is why all attempts at stopping illegals is doomed. Corporations have a louder voice than citizens. That is why:

1.When 90% of Americans are against a bank bailout but it is passed anyway

2. When even pres. Clinton agrees the WTO trade agreements on agriculture are causing famine but the USDA is allowed to push WTO regs without Congress OK

3. When during a congressional hearing it is shown the USDA ignored thousands of noncompliance reports and tried to jail the Union leader when he brought it to USDA Management attention YET CONGRESS DID NOTHING.

4. When the number of meat packers and the number of grain buyers is less than five but the monopoly is allowed

I really feel we are now a republic of corporations and not a republic of people.

I have followed the doings of the USDA closely for a while and it is very clear Food safety and Food production (farmers) have been sold-out to corporate greed while the USDA covers-up their dirty deeds by blaming farmers. (The USDA turned border crossing checks over to the likes of a Mexican Cattle Assoc, cut Bovine TB testing by 90% and then blame US farmers for the diseased Mexican cattle showing up in the slaughter house!)

THE BANKING CRISIS, ILLEGALS AND PROPOSED REGULATION OF FARMS ALL ADD UP TO COMPLETE CORPORATE CONTROL OF THE WORLD FOOD SUPPLY

Famine is on the way and the USDA and FDA is doing all it can to bring it to the USA

"On Oct. 10, Harvesters President and CEO Karen Haren issued a statement on the severity of their food supply shortage: “Historically, we distribute 6 percent more every year — until this year. Since the beginning of 2008, we have seen a 30-percent increase in the number of pounds of food we have distributed. Based on a survey of our network pantries and kitchens, the demand for emergency food assistance is currently up 50 percent and is continuing to rise.”

Yet the Grain traders urged the president not to allow the stockpiling of emergency food. (we now have none since last winter it was All given to third world nations. The patriot Act forbids Food hoarding and anything over a three month supply will be confiscated)

If Amnesty is set into law and eventual citizenship offered, how many more will come Illegally.. My belief is that millions more will come, and no matter the prerequisit for meeting the standard to stay FRAUD will be the name of the game just as it was in 1986... Those granted citzenship will then be allowed to sponsor their relatives, parents, grandparents, aunts and uncles, how many more will that add to our healthcare, education, and need for jobs because most who come Illegally are poor, those they sponsor will be poor... Our present economic mess will be with us for many years to come, and we could not solve our problems before this economic mess, and the middle class is failing... Without the hope of a job they will not come, without free education and healthcare they will not come. Enforce our present laws and the problem will solve itself, E-VERIFY before anyone gets a job...

Obama will more than likely give amnesty to illegals. He promised La Raza that.

I have a Black friend whose son graduated from H.S. in June. He wanted to work to get money for college but couldn't find a job. Illegals have taken most of the jobs in the fast food market, construction and a variety of other markets.

The young man's "friends" convinced him to sell meth on the street. The boy's father found out and had a heart to heart meeting with him. The boy stopped the illegal activity.

The culinary Union in Vegas strongly supports illegal so that market is closed also.

With thousands of high school students graduating and can't find jobs plus all the Americans looking for jobs, what the hell is Obama thinking?

He just had a meeting with McCain & Lindsey Graham (pro-Amnesty Republicans) looking for support for his position.

America is in deep trouble.

Frank

The New Democratic Seal Of The United States Of America!!!

Mr.Roy, I have but one thing to say about our petition to stop Illegal Immigration and to stop Amnesty to Mr. Obama, "YES WE CAN."

obama is going to be the worst thing to happen to our freedoms in a very long time -- but even the biggest wall will break down with enough pounding -- i have no doubt he will only get 4 years but how much damage will he do in those 4 years ---its scary

obama and McCain are schedualed to meet sometime in near future to dicuss illegal immigration. Since Mcain fought to make 'em legal,along w/ the democrats,and obama wants to legalize 'em, you can just bet what that conversation will be about,can't you??? If the demo's ever get super majority in congress,you can kiss your sweet "bippy" and our REPUBLIC goodbye!! SemperFi,USMC retired

With apologies to Roy, although petitions to Obama may or may not be worthless we must take every opportunity to make our voices heard. Thanks to Numbers we have been able to make many calls and send numerous faxes which in the end kept the anti-amnesty crowd at bay. With conservative radio, Numbers, and others we have had and will continue to have an effective multi-pronged attack, but is it enough?

Amnesty is only one issue we will have to deal with and I for one regret that Numbers can not spearhead the fight for other conservative issues. Beyond that I continue to be concerned that conservatives have never been able to reach all the voters and explain the "other" side of any issue.

We know who listens to our friends in talk radio and who is in contact with Numbers and other conservative groups, but what about the proletariat and others? Where do they get their information if they get any, and beside entitlement programs what causes them to move to one side or the other? Is TV their only medium? Would some kind of community outreach program allow us to get through?

I am perplexed that only the Democrats seem to be able to do a good job at appealing to the majority. Are incentives the only carrot that will reach them or can we actually educate, inform, and help them understand why conservatism is best for the entire country?

As an aging 'legal' immigrant, I am furious about amnesty attempts. There are millions of honest, law obiding people who want to come to America, but thay can not - because of immigration quotas and rules. In the meantime, we are using 'natural selection' preferring immigrants willing to break the law.
Yes, many 'illegals' are doing the hard work. But from the pool of hardworking people, we are selecting those who are willing to break the law, cross the border and live 'in the shaddows' - simply criminals.

The only way to fix the problem is cracking down on illegal immigration. From employers to border fence. And if our economy still needs an influx of cheap labor (note that the current 'need' has been created by economy responding to 'supply'), we should fix the immigration quotas - not giving amnesty to law breakers.
Perhaps the cost of lettuce head will go up. And the some ingenious American farmer will find a way to pick lettuce up without a 'cheap labor'.

If he is concerned about the job situation in this country, he will not let the illegals in to take American jobs....might be a good test to see if he really has our interests at heart or if he is only concerned with what he wants....

I am a 63 year old grandmother. I am fighting illegal immigration for my children and grandchildren.I want them to have a future. Illegals have driven wages down and taken good paying jobs.I live in the sanctuary state of Kansas.The illegal across the street from me was making $15.00 an hour 3 years ago.We have 5 Mexican gangs in our high school.People, we have to continue to fight for our families and our Nation!
Remember that most people who voted for Obama had no clue of who they were voting for.When he has been in office for a few months,harsh reality will slap them in the face and we will have more people on our side.DON'T GIVE UP NOW.WE HAVE MADE TO0 MUCH PROGRESS TO STOP NOW ! !
Robbie

If enough of us (large # in excess of 100,000) signs the petition, Barack Obama will have to at least consider the petition. The more signatures, the louder the voice/noise.

I do not think that anything coming from a Republican or a conservative thinker will be viewed by Obama. He hates America and what we think. The Obama democrats are only choosing people with no ties to Conservative ideals to Obama's cabinet and leadership. They removed Leiberman from office because he sided with Republicans. Obama is not crossing the aisle and will not cross it - he is way too liberal and truly wants anything against what a conservative wants. He has proven that time and time again. We can forget about our voices ever being heard while he, Nancy Pelosi or Harry Reid are in office. They are even cutting off conservative radio, Glen Beck, Rush Limbaugh, Shaun Hanity and any other view that is contrary to theirs. They are going to take away our freedoms and our rights starting with the 1st admendment, next is the 2nd etc etc. We are no longer aloud to speak or be heard unless it is a socialist/communist thought. Our petition will be thrown in the trash as soon as they get it. I have never been more frightened of our future.

FROM ROY: First, it is a mistake to think that the White House necessarily knows the ideology of an American petitioning or faxing it, unless the citizen states the ideology. Certainly, Washington officials know that NumbersUSA petitions are not conservative or any other ideology.  They know that NumbersUSA members are from all across the political spectrum. Yes, the White House will know that NumbersUSA is not a purely liberal or purely Democratic group. But they will also know that we are pluralistic, representing a broad cross-section of the American people.  This is what makes petitions and faxing from NumbersUSA so much more effective -- especially with Democrats -- than efforts from organization that are just conservative or just Republican.

One thing for sure, the best way to ensure that Pres. Obama lives up to people's lowest expectations and never listens to us is to never speak to him!

For the first six years of the Bush presidency it seemed like nobody there was willing to listen to us, either.  But we just kept pounding away.  Finally, last year, the Administration DID start listening to us, and the last 12 months have been the best 12 months of immigration enforcement since Eisenhower in the 1950s.

I'd like to offer to Steven of Texas the following thought from George Washington, who knew something about standing firm against overwhelming odds like the superior British force sent to the American colonies in 1776:

"Perseverance and spirit have done wonders in all ages."

Hey ya'll, let's get to work, let's keep fighting, forward the petition to everyone you know! I am a school teacher, our classrooms are full with illegal children or children of illegal people, HELP! it seems they are all coming to Texas!

To all fellow members:

Wars are won by winning one battle at a time! One must NEVER give up. The moment that you do, you are defeated. I find the current state of events discouraging just as most of us do. I read the comments by Lynn7723 of GA: "For the first time in many years we have a president who will listen to us." I'm sure that this person sincerely believes that statement to be true. I don't believe that statement for one heart beat! That is all the more reason for me to continue fighting illegal immigration because I certainly don't believe that Obama will. I hope Lynn7723 of GA will do the same after the disappointment sets in. And it will.

I am a believer in our Second Amendment rights and have been involved in that war for more than forty years! Where do you think that issue would be if all of us who stayed the course had given up every time we suffered a setback? The setbacks were many. But just recently, the U. S. Supreme Court reaffirmed the meaning of the Second Amendment! Would that have happened if we had given up years ago? I think not.

This is one NumbersUSA member who doesn't intend to let up the pressure. I hope all of you will think about it and do the same. No one ever won anything by quitting.

We cannot lose our voice in Washington. Petitions are only one way, but can be a very effective way of voicing how we want out elected officials to govern. After all, they are OUR employees.

This is no longer about political parties, it is about the survival of our nation. I fear we are on the downhill side of greatness.

Dear Roy,

I really thought we had a chance to make a difference but with Obama and the current events happening in this country, I think it's NOT in anyone's best interest to be on lists or petitions challenging Obama's group.

WE are in very "Dangerous Times" ......use CAUTION.

Save us to fight another day, but Know Who and What we are Targeting. We need to Understand the entire Scope of this New Administration and the Borders may turn out to be the least of our Worries.
Keep the group together but stay out of the range of Fire.

NumbersUSA Moderator: This is extreme. All of the tools our founding fathers gave to us are still at our disposal. Nothing has been written in stone. To sit on the sidelines or hide is to give up.

Respectfully, you cut the heart out of what I said in my post... Specifically, the REASON for my position:

...I've swallowed hard during the first Bush Administration... Held my nose during two terms of the Clinton presidency, and covered my eyes during yet another eight years of George Bush Jr's wishy-washy agenda... The bottom line: Immigration policies... have been abysmal at best from previous administrations, and I've held my nose, swallowed hard, and covered my eyes thinking "I've got to stand behind my President and make the best of a bad situation." NO MORE MR. BECK!

I'm not giving up on America, but it was AMERICA who elected these bozos into office... ALL of them, and now America needs to pay the price for that. Could we do some damage control in Washington during this administration to help curb some of this socialist ideology and once again make the best of a bad situation? ..."YOU BETCHA!" But why should I? No... Not this time. THIS time I want America to take a nice BIG bite of Mr. Obama, Pelosi, Reed, Clinton, and the whole lot of them... Let America bite down on THAT for four years... Let us chew on it... taste it... feel the pestilence that is socialism coursing through the veins of this great nation. THEN... perhaps, America will finally realize that this is the WRONG way to go and we'll elect real leaders into office... Real leaders who will bring about REAL change. That is, of course, unless we want to spend the next 100 years fighting for what's right, a little trifle at a time...

I meant what I said, you ARE doing great work, and I agree that bi-partisan cooperation is what's needed. I'm all for that cooperation so long as it's a discourse over POLICY. Where I will not debate or compromise is on matters of PRINCIPLE. America and her founding principles have been abandoned by BOTH sides of the aisle. That was my point. While I'm personally a Republican, I'll vote for and support a Democrat in a MINUTE if he / she stands with me on PRINCIPLE. We'll debate policy later.

Regards (again),

Jim
Jacksonville, FL

Roy,
With regard to the most recent action alert email, "Is Amnesty Petition to Obama Worthless?"... An interesting perspective the fellow from TX offers, but I offer yet another sentiment...
I have no intention of signing any petitions or doing any activism whatsoever during this administration to reform immigration or anything else for that matter.

 Why? Because I believe in amnesty? Hardly.... I actually very much support what it is you do here and will continue to follow your work closely. The reason that I won't support any activism during this administration is because I have no desire to help President Obama and the rest of this socialist administration and the legislature to "water down" his socialist, liberal agenda for this country.... 

 Please keep up the great work Mr. Beck, and don't think for a moment that you're going unnoticed, by me nor anyone else. I very much support what it is that you are doing, as I think do many Americans. Just as sometimes is the case with an adolescent child however, sad as it is, sometimes we must allow them to fall... even fall HARD, in order to allow them to learn a greater life lesson.

May God be with America through this trial, and may he inspire us as a nation to learn from our failure today to act for a better tomorrow.

Regards,

Jim
Jacksonville, FL
I'm Jim F, hopeful candidate for US Congress 2012 and I approved this message.

NumbersUSA Moderator: We posted selections from Jim's message for reasons of length. 

An amnesty and/or permanent increases in legal immigration may very well teach some people some "lessons," but they would also leave a horrible burden for future generations of Americans. We're going to keep working for them and we hope you will join us.

Also, this is a good time to remind everyone that NumbersUSA is strictly non-partisan. Our staff and users are made up of Democrats, Republicans, Libertarians, Constitutionalists, Independents, and others. The only way we are going to achieve our common goal of sensible immigration reform is to work together.

Steve in Texas is a quitter, and quitters never win.

I have always sent all the faxes and signed all the petitions, and I'm willing to keep doing so in an effort to "hang in there" and do whatever I can. But I'm not going to delude myself by thinking that it will make any difference at this point. We all worked endlessly in an effort to make the American people wake up and *not* vote the Democrats into complete and overwhelming control of the entire government, and we were totally unsuccessful in that effort. And to make that conservative defeat even worse, the Democrats won by such a large margin that they now think they have a loud and clear mandate to implement their endless stream of liberal and socialist ideas.
And it certainly didn't/doesn't help that the so-called "conservative" Republican party seems to have completely lost it's way, has no leadership at all, and seems intent on turning itself into a more liberal party as well! What we so desperately need is a true *conservative* party once again!
So I'll keep doing my small part by sending the faxes and signing the petitions.... but I seriously doubt they'll have *any* impact on a group of even more empowered Democrats, who even before this election were already so arrogant that they felt they could completely ignore the will of the American public whenever they disagreed with them (i.e. off-shore drilling, gay marriage, etc, etc, etc). Why on earth would they *now* decide to care at all about what groups like us might have to say?
I'm hopeful that after 2 years of liberal tyranny and socialist agendas, We The People will *finally* wake up, see the huge mistake we've made, and demand that the Democrats be stripped of their undeserved control of *our* Congress in 2010.
-Richard

NumbersUSA Moderator: It is easy to read the various comments on this blog and wonder what NumbersUSA members could possibly have in common. Many of our users are celebrating the election results. Many others are lamenting them. What makes NumbersUSA so effective is our ability to set aside our differences to unite behind our shared concerns.

NumbersUSA is more effective than other organizations because we are strictly non-partisan and strictly limited to immigration-reduction issues. This enables us to work with our allies from the Democratic and Republican parties. As hard as it is to admit, the truth is that we have heroes and villains on both sides of the aisle - and we will only win if we work together.